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If it is so cheap, why such a limited release?

> CAD is only half of the design process

I'm not a mechanical engineer but I would be surprised if it was even 30% of the process. Materials, manufacturability, durability, fitting into other requirements. Some of those things can be part of the CAD design, but there's so much more.

Not to say that CAD isn't a big chunk!


Agreed, it's probably 10% of the total product development process, but approximately half if you're just considering "design" tasks.

China deliberately adopted western style market institutions. They joined the WTO. No, they aren't a fully westernized market, but they are closer to a competitive marketplace than the state dictating all of what will or will not be built.

I'm confused, what has America and the west lost the plot on? You would have preferred the west to exploit China more?

This framing of a zero sum game is counterproductive.


> This framing of a zero sum game is counterproductive.

I agree but that's not at all what I was getting at. Quite the opposite. The mistake America made, what made it vulnerable, was playing everything like a zero sum game. We're in the early days of that behavior coming to roost.


No, that is exactly what you were getting at:

> China played the smart long game and took advantage of America's...

Zero sum games imply that if there is a winner, there has to be a loser. That one country takes advantage of another.


I think they're saying America ended up positioning itself as the loser because they framed things as a zero-sum game. Which of course is a generalization, neither America nor China is a monolith, but I can certainly see some presidencies of the last decades leaning more into this attitude than others.

“If you assume everyone only has hammers, you'll end up getting screwed”, or something like that.


> I think they're saying America ended up positioning itself as the loser because they framed things as a zero-sum game.

I didn't bother responding earlier, and I'm not sure why I'm responding now because I don't think "because they framed things as a zero-sum game." explains anything, and it sounds like something that sounded like a retort but offered without any evidence means nothing.


Yes, thank you.

That's not my framing, that's literally what happened/is happening.

A bad business decision is not psychosis. Misjudging the value provided by a product is not psychosis.

Making bad financial decisions is a symptom of mania though

and when you look up what spending while having a manic episode looks like, does it resemble a layoff? or is it substantively different?

It absolutely could be the case a person in a manic episode lays off a bunch of people that wouldn’t be out of the question at all

sure and if layoffs were clinical indicators for mania, we'd probably see a whole lot less of them. unfortunately that's not our world

People really need an entire article to justify labeling someone as having a mental illness because in their opinion, the their coworker isn't contributing meaninfully, or potentially making things worse.

FTA: > Prolific AI psychosis occurs when a person generates a large quantity of AI output without significantly increasing the real value of their work.

Guy, we used to just call this a bad coworker.

I'm pretty sure that the "psychosis" will be abused by folks that just don't like AI. You already see it everywhere.


> Guy, we used to just call this a bad coworker.

Not that long ago. People generating large quantities of AI output is a relatively recent phenomenon. At least when compared to labels like this.


its the same individuals in my experience. i don't see people who used to be good employees suddenly sending a 3000 word email, but i sure do see that out of the people who were bad coworkers 12 months ago and still are today.

low effort work though, that's nothing new... accelerating that low effort: that is new... but the low effort work hasn't been changed by ai: only illuminated more clearly.

I'll disagree, I think AI meaningfully changes the definition of a bad coworker because its main interface emulates talking to another human being closely enough that some people value its conversational input equally or more highly than that of actual human beings.

I think that this is exacerbated by many LLMs defaulting to placating, complementing, and otherwise reinforcing biases in their users, and it will often produce just enough evidence to make its (and its user's) position seem compelling, while that evidence is often either tangential, orthogonal, or straight-up hallucinated.

Humans aren't perfect vessels for information, but working on a reasonably-qualified, healthy team, a degree of respectful professional disagreement has always been the norm, and that covers both cases where the disagreement comes from a genuine matter of opinion, as well as cases where one colleague cross-checks anothers' assumptions and finds some of them to be wrong. That's the process.


You certainly seem to have your mind made up about this either way, but a humble fwiw nevertheless: the author is a psychiatrist, not some bitter dev/hypothetical coworker like you seem to be suggesting.

I did dig into that after I read it. Even more depressing honestly. He should know better than to throw around labels.

Is it that psychiatrists in general could maybe use this label, but you know this one is doing it wrong? Otherwise, who is allowed to use the term?

Doesn't it kinda inspire you at least a little to reflect on your understanding of the particular term? Or should we understand that to be faultless here?

In general, the definition we need to have here is that psychosis is always extreme and violent and pretty much matching the cultural trope we have for it? And anything less is incorrect usage? Is that why you disagree in explicit terms?


> Is it that psychiatrists in general could maybe use this label, but you know this one is doing it wrong? Otherwise, who is allowed to use the term?

I specifically take issue with the weak standard used.

> Doesn't it kinda inspire you at least a little to reflect on your understanding of the particular term? Or should we understand that to be faultless here?

Is there a way to read this that isn't insulting? Do I need to reflect on my understanding until it matches yours?

> In general, the definition we need to have here is that psychosis is always extreme and violent and pretty much matching the cultural trope we have for it? And anything less is incorrect usage? Is that why you disagree in explicit terms?

Never said any of that. It's a medical term and carries weight. Core symptoms are hallucinations and delusions. Here, delusions is not "my corporate product is better than your corporate product", it is not a strongly held belief that isn't real. We don't call belief in God psychosis. (some do, but that's beside the point)


Hey so sorry to insult! Cards on the table, I was certainly called to reflect on my assumptions about the term and its use when I read the article, but I can certainly see how that comment would feel ludicrous/offensive to someone so knowledgeable. Thanks here for the lesson.

Just so I don't get in trouble in the future: is it correct or incorrect to assume psychosis is necessarily accompanied by violence? I only ask because you response to the sibling comment seems to contradict your response to me? But, as you can probably tell, I am not working with much brainpower over here, so I am sure I am just misunderstanding!


Sorry but the pro-AI/AI boosters do the exact same thing when they say that people who don't use AI are "Luddites" and the like. And I'm pretty sure the Luddite thing has been going on for far longer than the AI psychosis labeling.

Also a luddite is not thought of as a danger to others. The label of psychosis implies otherwise. Luddite extends beyond AI

Whataboutism is a plague.

That said, calling folks luddites is an annoyance.


Song as old as time - people were doing this well before AI, there's just yet another reason for these types of people to categorize workers and pretend that management can be perfect and easy and that the world isn't hard.

It's almost as if it's a little bit harder than people think to figure out how good people are at their jobs and who deserves promotions, etc, and that maybe they may not have the most perfect unbiased judgements.


I was bound to agree with you before I RTFA. The classification is useful for a psychiatrist, i.e. someone who wants to help the person.

"Bad coworker" can have many causes. In prolific AI psychosis, I think the assumption (differential diagnosis) is, they became a "bad coworker" due to use of AI, so they were a "good coworker" before.


As someone else point out, the term is stigmatizing, psychosis is a very strong term, and as I very much noted, already being misused and abused.

No, the term itself is not stigmatizing. People stigmatize legitimate psychiatric diagnoses, and you're perpetuating this idea in your comment, by blaming the term for the moral failure. These labels don't exists to stigmatize people, but to study the problem and help people.

Yeah, I was really impressed with the style of the project but got a little triggered by the extruded aluminum. "I don't want to pay a lot" -- proceeds to use engineered metals. And while it is convenient, it is softer and more likely to bend out of shape than just regular wood.

Notes was legit. It was very featureful and cool but the amount of support and hardware required was quite high. A little ahead of its time.

Good or bad, nothing ages as poorly as economic or market predictions.

> Non-example 2: There are worries about AI-facilitated biological weapons. I haven’t seen any evidence that’s happening.

I think this is a good example of poor risk management reasoning. there is evidence bioengineering is already happening. No, nobody is going to announce when somebody has decided to use these tools (even if isn’t an LLM) to bioengineer a weapon. Are the tools power enough to do so? Not sure.

But I’m just ambivalent. It’s probably bad. But there’s nothing to do about it. We’ve really only just pulled back the lid on Pandora’s box.


People have had the capability to spread already existing biological weapons for decades. Sometimes they even do (anthrax in the post). What’s changed?

You needed a team of scientists and state funding to make superbugs, not a 12 year old or an angry misanthrope.

> there is evidence bioengineering is already happening

Mind sharing this evidence with us?



No, it's not. And it's the kind of evidence that doesn't help and rather confuse. It's not even clear from the article whether an LLM or a dedicated model were used for this purpose.

Also

> That is, I'm not sure that anyone needs to deploy a new compound in order to wreak havoc - they can save themselves a lot of trouble by just making Sarin or VX, God help us.

We already have toxic nerve agents that are largely available for state actors and possibly available for individuals. If you have decided, as a human, to make great harm, you can already do that.


I swear to god, people would look at the successes of Xerox palo alto and just shrug and say - "yeah, but I mean, this is all marketing"

Xerox is incidentally a really good example, because precisely nobody ended up using the desktop experience Xerox made. They ended up using the desktop experience that Microsoft and Apple made and shipped while Xerox the actual company faded and memory of those original parc research teams faded into obscurity.

This is what I keep saying, and it feels like I'm taking crazy pills here!

Is nobody else astounded by this?


The thing only nerds know about that wasn’t in the news every day? Not the same thing.

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