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- you can edit your bash prompt and clean it completely if that satisfies you, - I have no problems to remember exactly where I am the most of the time and if I forget I can type pwd - graphical autocompletion is useless in keyboard controlled interfaces as it hides part of the screen and takes the same number of keystrokes to reach a result - we call it man and if you are late for your date, -h - you are in front of a tool, not a teacher, rtfm - no comment


man, if you had to operate daily hundreds of files you will forget quickly about drag'n'dropping, scrollbars and all that annoyances. about the popup is useless on a keyboard controlled interface as the number of keystrokes needed are the same. the problem you have, is that you think that your terminal application is badly-glued into your graphic system, when in fact your graphic system is badly-glued on terminal applications


that's just a marketing site talking about a marketing term probably invented by a marketing guy, I'm okay if this gets as widespread as apple devices (and btw I really love my macbook pro) but I find it totally useless for the people working day by day with terminals, time will have the last word


Even if it is - and reading the article, it's Dave Winer, who I doubt would think of himself as a marketer - then that doesn't make it wrong!

Marketing is a legit discipline with a bunch of charlatanry around it. So is programming. So is basically every field of human endeavour.


Think of this as empowering people who will not use vi or emacs, but prefer Eclipse or Visual Studio, to have a visually appealing arsenal of tools which can be chained in a pipelined fashion.

What is wrong with that? Yahoo pipes for example provided pointy clickety interface to mashing up data. Lot of people used it to do useful work.

It really does not matter if a even single sysadmin who already uses the shell does not start using this. It just needs to have its OWN users that is all. If you just consider ALL Eclipse users + ALL Visual Studio users, that is a HUGE user base... Now the vi/emacs user may feel superior to the others...

but in reality anyone in this world can have their own reasons to create products and use various tools. All the best to the author of this tool for taking the pain to code this...

If it works out and gains users... awesome... else it shows we still find Old tools useful. We have not stopped using Fire or Wheels today though they very OLD technologies. Whether the shell is as important as fire or wheels OR transitionary like Hydrogen blimps or something in between only time will tell...


the only thing that pisses me off is the guy posting how many years he was administering UNIX systems and how this monster was an "obvious" step in the field, web designers are quite arrogant


that webkit will render faster than a terminal emulator is just pure fantasy, is like saying that a smart phone with all the fancy apps will eventually use less power than a solar powered calculator. you ppl are addicted to osx overdesign. no graphical user interface will beat a keyboard in the right hands, like it or not. pure fantasy, hipster hackers


What was the last time you had any problems with the rendering speed of Webkit in reality? Have you tried the other link in HN, that boots Linux in your browser, with a terminal app, and it still manages to be fast even on my modest system?

Have you looked at some WebGL / Canvas based demos lately? There are now very efficient GPU offloaded rendering APIs that make rendering graphics a breeze, it is no longer a big-overhead thing. If you don't use fancy graphics you're underutilizing your GPU.

[also, TermKit is not just about fancy graphics, but also about user friendlyness/usefullness for some tasks that are not very well handled in terminals otherwise]


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