Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | zapzupnz's commentslogin

    Embrace.

    Extend.     <-- You are here.

    Extinguish.
We may never actually reach Extinguish. That won't be by Microsoft's choice, though.

Comment from 2007.

Comment from every dang year.

The more recent complaints have been about Github being ruined by Microsoft. And this is why MS gets away with EEE, because people have short memories and say to themselves "nah, it won't happen again this time".

Then it happens. Again. And again.


> So most consumers are willing to knowingly

"Knowingly". No, they don't know. You seem to think that because you know, then so must everybody else.

I have no words for how depressing that way of thinking is.


Why would anyone not take 5 minutes to research a major purchase? They have Internet access!

I mean obviously I expect Grandma not to know, but anyone that knows enough to connect to the internet knows how to use a search engine.

Corpos get away with blatant factory malware and security negligence because consumers are so predictably unwilling to research anything beyond what their social media algorithm of choice shows them as they scroll.


> But surely you know

No? It's hardly written in the advertising copy for the TV, is it.

This is a technical website with technical users. You are failing to put yourself in the shoes of non-technical, ordinary users who just want to watch Netflix.

> All avoidable

If you know that you should avoid it but people don't.


> No? It's hardly written in the advertising copy for the TV, is it.

Which just proves almost no one does 5 minutes of online research before blindly believing whatever a device says about itself.

Those sorts are unfortunately in for a very bad time over the next few years.


A nutritionist, a dermatologist, a plumber could all say the same about many of the things we do or don't do day to day. There's only so many free "5 minutes" people have in a day.


I have researched second opinions from professionals on dermatology, nutrition, and plumbing, and reviews on the ones I do hire.

A bunch of 5 minute segments of gut check research avoids a ton of pain in life.

Everyone connecting these TVs to the internet, has access to the internet to tell them not to do that.

Obviously though, the TV makers are at fault. I just am baffled how so many still fall for this.


> Everyone connecting these TVs to the internet has access to the internet to tell them not to do that.

> I just am baffled how so many still fall for this.

Because you're assuming everybody else is you, cares about the same things as you, does the same things as you, and has the same priorities as you.

You're astonished the world isn't you, and that is a vastly more astonishing take than people-just-wanna-watch-Netflix.


Not just a repo/index but they also offer reasonably-priced compute, with a free tier not to sniff at, on which to run the models.


Who is this person? Why should I care about this?


> Not to mention the problematic nature of trusting any data coming from a country known for state-sponsored deception, trolling and organized operations in informational warfare.

What, like the United States of America?

I find it so odd that people think Kagi's commercial agreement with Yandex is more offensive than theirs with Google or Microsoft, both of whom have contracts with the US military. Surely they're equally as abhorrent, particularly the use of their AI models for combat warfare purposes.

> (to the inevitable whatabouters: yes, this can also be applied to other economies/countries, everyone makes their own moral choices on where to draw the line, but the line should be drawn somewhere)

Genuinely curious: on the correct side of your personal line, what services do you now use that replace Kagi? Presumably they'd be EU-based, like Qwant or Ecosia?


Cue responses from all the people a week ago moaning about it not being open source on day one, despite there being a precedent from Chris Lattner that it would all go down exactly like this.


From your profile:

> "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." = censorship. Unaccountable [flag] = censorship.

> Mass un-elaborated on downvoting = censorship; needing 500 karma to downvote = censorship.

> Turn on showdead in your profile and see for yourself what people are "allowed" to comment vs what they're not. Userbase = mendacious pricks.

Apparently everything is censorship and everybody else is a prick. It's always someone else's fault. There's never responsibility taken for mean-spiritedness or rule violations.

Ever considered that if this is the hill you're dying on, your takes are just terrible and getting flagged is just this site's natural selection?

No, it's everyone else who is wrong? OK then.

I mean, the dead comment in this one is dead because of: "You're just defending Bluesky because you're on the same team politically" which is an unnecessarily unkind, snarky, uncurious way to communicate. That last paragraph was unnecessary but it tainted the entire post.

From the site rules:

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

> Don't be curmudgeonly.

> Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

But, of course, it's everybody else's problem, never yours, never the owner of the dead comment.


You're not wrong and I do think that specific dead comment is dead for a reason. I just get a bit bristly when I do see legitimate comments buried under flags


PS - sorry. I love a great many things about HN. I'm glad the site does sometimes insist on decorum


You responded better than I thought you might, credit where credit's due. Have a good one.


2025 and 2026 have proven that to be vastly untrue. It was never true. If it was anything, it was rampant laziness.


It's not just N, it's Z.


But what are the questions nobody is asking?


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: