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In other words, bad things happen. Yep. With you there. Wars kill people, both by guns and starvation. Droughts kill people, as do floods, by preventing the growth of food.

That's a far cry from we're still all going to starve because human growth and resource use is unsustainable, which is what you were implying at first.

Here's what you said: "Those grim predictions were only pushed back by the exploitation of nonrenewable resoruces... Virtually all of that entailed utilising resources at rates faster than they could be replaced: coal, oil, gas, guano, topsoil, fertilisers, groundwater."

So, I invite you to tell me which natural resource we're going to run out of that will cause mass starvation. No timeline necessary. Or don't tell me which one, just tell me within a century or two accuracy when we will face worldwide mass starvation because of any resource being used up.



You're speaking like starvation is something out of a Roland Emmerich movie. Starvation doesn't literally kill people bing bang within a month. Mass starvation is a reduction in calorie output, which means a smaller birth rate, which our first-world countries are inoculated against.


The question is whether we'll actually face mass starvation because of unsustainable use of non-renewable resources.

Nothing you've said above indicates to me what you think the answer to that question is.

If all you mean is that birth rates are going to drop, well, that's already been happening for a long time.




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